By Alexandra Bruce
Forbidden Knowledge TV
TRANSCRIPT
(Cold Open)
Roger Stone: Justice is very definitely coming. There are going to be indictments for Seditious Conspiracy to commit Treason, regarding the entire Cabal.
Put aside the question of Barack Obama, who unless there’s a retroactive impeachment, which is legally possible, but politically and unlikely, Biden, Brennan, Comey, Rice, Rosenstein, Mueller, Weissman, McCabe, Samantha Powers and others, I think are looking at serious criminal indictments.
This is coming. We were not optimistic, long ago. Today, it is absolutely clear that justice is going to be done. But this is important.
The Left will keep saying, “Oh! This is revenge! This is retaliation!” No, this is a recalibration of the Scales of Justice, where we were accused of crimes that we didn’t commit and they were set to send us away for a long, long time; where these people actually committed serious, seditious crimes for which they will now be punished.
And what’s making them apoplectic, Alex, is they know they’re not going to be charged in DC, where everything is wired and they’re certain to be acquitted.
They’re going to be tried in a city where they’ll get a fair trial. And in a fair trial, they’ll be convicted, because the evidence is overwhelming.
(Alex Jones Show bumper)
Alex Jones: We have Ed Martin. We have the task forces finally being put in place. People that are wanting quicker indictments, they’ve been trying to block the appointments. They’ve been trying to block US Attorneys getting in.
Trump’s had to do all this reshuffling. They’ve had to get it ready. The grand juries are now open in Virginia. They’re open in Pennsylvania. They’re open in Missouri. They’re open in New York. They’re opening up in Florida.
Ed Martin is crisscrossing the country. There’s some other task force groups in there. And they have every intention, and they’ve found just insane stuff.
And as you said, it is always the same players. It’s Obama, Susan Rice, and a few others.
And then it’s Weissman and all of them under it. He was saying it’s the same nest of people, whether it’s the Autopen, or whether it’s Crossfire Hurricane, or whether it’s suppressing the Hunter Biden Laptop, or whether it’s all the citizenship. It’s the same little Cabal.
And they have every intention of indicting their ass, up one side and down the other. What is your view on that? General Flynn’s been a big pessimist. He says he believes it’s not going to start happening. What the timeframes are on that, Roger Stone?
Roger Stone: Alex, I do believe it’s going to happen. I think Bolton’s role in all of this is important. Because on September 17, 2018 –
Alex Jones: Yeah, let’s explain. He’s a liaison. Don’t think he was a Republican. He’s a Neocon liaison to the Democrat Neocon Deep State. Explain why the raid on him is so, so key.
Because, we know from Gabbard’s documents they released a month ago, I was hoping you’re going there, that he knew Trump was innocent. He knew Crossfire Hurricane was made up by Obama. It wasn’t just Hillary. They knew all that. And then he gave a fake briefing to Trump and kept in his safe the real intelligence he was given. Please continue, Roger.
Roger Stone: On September 17, 2018, Donald Trump reversed his order to declassify the Crossfire Hurricane documents. He was persuaded by National Security Advisor Bolton and the FBI and the State Department and the NSA that it would put at risk some of our intelligence agents and that it would expose our methods and sources. And they would upset our allies, specifically the British.
Who were they really protecting? None of those people. They were protecting themselves. So then on September 21, President Trump reversed his order to declassify those documents. Then, as you know, towards the end of his term, Rick Grennell, who was then the Acting Director of National Intelligence, convinced the President, “No, you have to declassify these documents.”
And the order was given, but the bureaucrats in the deep state refused to carry it out.
Now, finally, thanks to the persistence of President Trump and the meticulous nature of Tulsi Gabbard, all of that information has been released. Not all of it. Most of it has been released. There’s more, and the more is even more incendiary than what you’ve already seen.
But there is no doubt, whatsoever that there was a conspiracy, a seditious conspiracy, born in the Oval Office in September of 2017, pardon me, in July of 2017, that Barack Obama was there, Joe Biden was there, Susan Rice was there.
Alex Jones: 2016.
Roger Stone: A corrupt FBI Director.
Alex Jones: Yeah, Roger, you mean 2016.
Roger Stone: 2016, pardon me. I misspoke. So, yes, I do think that justice is coming. I’ve been told by authoritative sources there are grand juries operating in South Florida, that are operating in Washington, DC, that are operating in New York, taking testimony, preparing indictments for these various criminals.
Alex Jones: Well, I mean, let me tell you specifically what I was told by the main Task Force Leader. He said, I get to say that. There’s grand juries. The big one’s Virginia, OK? And because, you know, that deals with the CIA and all that with what Gabbard got.
And he said, “I can’t tell you the details. It’s classified.” But he said, he said, “Alex, this is a Saturday conversation. He said, “Alex,” it is, the exact words, I didn’t record it. I was writing notes. He just said, it is, “If you think what’s been released so far was bad,” in which he goes, “It’s damning,” He goes, “This is infinitely worse.”
And I said, “What are the specifics?” He said, obviously, they’re trying to mull through as it’s all so classified. But he just said, “It is 100% a seditious conspiracy, right to the top. And they are screwed.”
And then, obviously, we’re simpaticos, we’re both smart. And I’m like, “And you don’t care if this gets out, because they already know and you want their minions to know the jig is up.”
And he goes, “Exactly, now is the time to start beating the drums. We’re getting all these whistleblowers and people.”
And people have said, listeners. “Well, why would you say they’re getting ready to go after them, for income tax evasion?”
They’ll know! It’s in the taxes! They can’t get out of it! We want them to know! We want the fox to hear the hounds coming! We want them to know. Roger, explain that.
Roger Stone: Look, I think it is absolutely important to recognize, just in the last 24 hours, thanks to President Trump’s direction and the courageous actions of Bill Pulte, who is the head of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, we now know, definitively that Lisa Cook, one of the Federal Reserve Board Governors, engaged in mortgage fraud.
She said that her home in Ann Arbor, Michigan, was her principal legal residence. That gave her a state tax break, a lower mortgage rate, and a lower insurance rate. And then, Alex, just two weeks later, she claimed that her home outside of Atlanta was her principal legal residence, which entitled her to another state tax break, and a lower insurance rate, and a lower mortgage rate.
Alex Jones: And if you and I did that, we’d be in prison. So that’s exactly what Martin said. I said, “Who’s got the biggest balls?” And he said, “Gabbard and Pulte.”
And he said, absolutely. And he said, they’ve got their ass. Letitia James, all of them, they said, and I know you’ll want to hear this, they’ve got all of Jack Smith’s emails and text messages, now.
I don’t know if you’ve seen my reporting yesterday. He was going to set up a giant UN-style show trial, where you don’t even defend yourself. They try thousands at a time. And they were going to have a real martial law, not even tribunal, but DC-weaponized judicial tyranny, and send thousands of people to prison. That was his real goal.
Roger Stone: Well, it’s interesting because I’m well aware of the fact that General Flynn has shown undisputed documentation of the fact that Jack Smith was taking massive bribes when he was at the International Court at The Hague.
Why he’s not under investigation for that, I’m really unclear. But this development, regarding Lisa Cook, who the President fired last night, because the law says the President can fire a Federal Board Governor for a cause. Mortgage fraud is more than certainly a cause.
Now, she says this morning she won’t resign. So I imagine that this will get resolved in the courts. If it goes to court in DC, we know what will happen there. So it’ll end up going to the Supreme Court.
But here’s why it’s important: Right now, you have a 5-4 vote against cutting interest rates on the American people. Without Lisa Cook and with a new nominee by President Donald Trump, you’ll have a 5-4 board, in favor of cutting interest rates on the American people.
Meanwhile, Jerome Powell, the Chairman, has his own legal problems, because he very clearly lied under oath before the US Senate regarding the $2.5 billion renovation of his already-palatial headquarters on Constitution Avenue in Washington, DC.
He specifically says under oath, “No, there’s no private elevator for the Federal Board Governors. There’s no private dining room, no more fountains, no more marble, no lavish roof garden.” You can go online. And it’s all there, in the plans.
Alex Jones: And I know, exactly, I can tell you, Martin’s investigating that as well. Trump says he’s removing Federal Reserve Governor Lisa Cook, citing his administration’s allegations of mortgage fraud. Fed Governor Cook hires Hunter Biden’s lawyer as Trump firing puts Powell back in hot seat, uncharted waters. Trump attempts to take charge of the Fed.
He’s very close to doing it. So Trump is on the warpath. And from what I heard from another source, Trump said, “I want a rampage.” He knows that the clock’s ticking before the Midterms. He knows what people want, what’s the right thing to do is mass indictments. And so that’s why we’re not back eight years ago when you and I were both saying, don’t hold your breath, no indictments.
It’s totally different, now. And our enemies know that they’re getting subpoenaed. They’re getting FBI visits, Folks. Just because Trump doesn’t, they don’t call the media and do it like they did to Roger. It’s going on. I know a lot more, I’m gonna stop, right there.
And I tell listeners this. A large portion of them, I’d say close to half, get mad at me and say, “We don’t wanna hear about this, we just wanna see it!”
It’s an info war. The stuff Gabbard’s released, the stuff Kash Patel’s released. All this is devastating. This is all new. It just proves it all.
We have to win the info war in the public, ahead of the indictments, Folks, so that the juries and the grand juries all know about it. This is very important. Now, is the maximum effort. Now it’s actually happening.
Remember, I’m the guy that got attacked for saying it wasn’t happening eight years ago and seven years ago and six years ago and five years ago. Now I’m saying it is.
Roger was pessimistic. Flynn was pessimistic. What are they saying? No, they say, “No, we’re told it’s going down!”
But what about the question of how the enemy, what they’re gonna try to pull off to stop this? Because, they know it’s real. Even if the MAGA folks have become jaded, which I can understand, our enemy know it’s real. What are they gonna pull?
Roger Stone: Yeah, Alex, I’ve never seen anything quite like the performance of Adam Schiff this weekend with the propagandist, what’s her name, Welker. This guy lies with a straight face better than anybody I’ve ever seen. Asked about his mortgage fraud. Let’s be very clear: He claimed his condominium in Burbank, California was his principal legal residence. He got a state tax break. He got a lower mortgage rate. He got a lower insurance rate.
And then, he claimed that his home in Potomac, Maryland, which he’s refinanced four times, was his principal legal residence, getting, once again, a Maryland State tax break, a lower mortgage rate and a lower insurance rate.
When confronted, he says, “o, no, that’s all made up. They’re just making this up!” like he made the Russian collusion hoax up. “This is weaponization. They’re going after me. They’re going after the January 6th Committee Members. They’re going after the former President and Vice President. You’re absolutely right, Adam. They are. You know why? Because you all broke the law. And thanks to Bill –
Alex Jones: And I love now what they claim we did, because they looked into my mortgage, yours, all of it. And we’re not gonna spend all day what they did to us. For everything you know, there’s like 100 other things.
Leticia James, I was told by a high level federal official, the DOJ, I’m not gonna say who, that they, you know, they have the taxes. They said it’s 100% cut and dry on her ass: mass tax evasion.
Leticia James claims Trump is “weaponizing justice” in fraud case. Isn’t that hilarious, Roger?
Roger Stone: Yeah, there’s a letter co-signed by all these Democrat attorney generals who I think can now be guaranteed that all of their mortgages will be looked at!
Alex, here’s what people don’t understand: The Federal Housing Finance Administration refers hundreds of people every week, just average people, for mortgage fraud, for doing exactly what Leticia James and Adam Schiff and Lisa Cook have done. So they’re not being singled-out. This is not “selective prosecution”. Why should they not be treated like anyone else? They should.
No one is above the law. Isn’t that what they told us during Watergate? Isn’t that what they told us when Trump was being prosecuted on bogus charges in New York State by Leticia James?
Let’s be very clear. She charged Trump with inflating the value of his assets in order to borrow money for commercial real estate loans, all of which he paid back on time, and the lenders made $40 million in interest. They all said – they weren’t allowed to testify – of course, but had they been allowed to testify, they all said they would do the deal again tomorrow.
Alex Jones: Trump’s a good guy to be in business with. So let me ask you this. I know the Justice Department, they know what’s going to happen. As soon as these indictments start, they’re going to activate Black Lives Matter and the whole Hamas crew. They’re going to burn the country down. They know that.
The Democrats, that’s the Podesta Plan. I know Trump knows that’s coming. That’s why he’s pre-positioning troops ahead of time, not as a police state, but as a counter to this. Your take on that?
Roger Stone: Look, I think he’s already demonstrated in the District of Columbia. I think he’s about to demonstrate in the City of Chicago, where you have a national emergency. The President, alone has the authority to declare what is and is not a national emergency, and therefore, he has the ability to mobilize the National Guard.
I’ve said this publicly. I think one of the president’s errors in his first term, when BLM and Antifa was burning down half the country, some of his advisors convinced him to let the governors deal with it. The governors like Tim Walz, who did nothing, who delayed; to watch Minneapolis and St. Paul burn.
That mistake will not be made again. Donald Trump recognizes that the first responsibility of the President of the United States is to maintain order. That, above all: to maintain order.
He ran as the Law and Order Candidate. If there is an uprising, as the retarded mayor of Chicago, this guy’s dumb as a brick, said yesterday – first of all, he said, “All of our rising crime problems are Richard Nixon’s fault.”
Alex, Richard Nixon’s been dead for 30 plus years. What’s he talking about? And secondarily, he calls on the people to “Resist.” Resist what? Making our neighborhoods safe again?
So the president will stand for no nonsense. If there is an active illegal resistance, then the president will use the resources of the American government to maintain order.
Alex Jones: Absolutely. I’ve had constitutional lawyers on, and they’re like, everything, it’s all been upheld by courts, what he’s doing with ICE and the National Guard. And it’s a band-aid. We need to remove the source prosecutors. Do five more minutes with me.
I want to bring up Epstein. I want to move on to other things, but the Trump White House, DOJ keeps putting it front and center like trying to sell people to forget about it. Well, the way you do that is to stop talking about it. You don’t tee it up again, dumbasses!
Roger, big picture from all your sources and my sources, you’re saying this is a big deal. All these grand juries getting open to things. Quantify it for viewers and listeners that heard all this eight years ago, and we were the ones being pessimistic then too. This is different, this time.
And the Deep State hasn’t been successful in blocking Flynn and you and I and many others out of the administration. No, we’re being called and others are being called by the administration because it’s not just Trump now. He’s got way more patriots in this time. It’s not perfect, but he’s got 50 times what he had before. He had almost none before.
They went in and cut you out, cut Flynn out, cut everybody out very quickly. This time, he’s got Patriots that are dialed in and the globalists have a big problem. How would you quantify that or do you disagree?
Roger Stone: I know, Alex, I spoke to the Florida Republican Assembly this weekend as their Keynote Speaker, and I think I summed this up: Justice is very definitely coming. There are going to be indictments for seditious conspiracy to commit treason regarding the entire Cabal.
Put aside the question of Barack Obama, who unless there’s a retroactive impeachment, which is legally possible, but politically and unlikely, Biden, Brennan, Comey, Rice, Rosenstein, Mueller, Weissman, McCabe, Samantha Powers and others, I think are looking at serious criminal indictments. This is coming.
We were not optimistic, long ago. Today, it is absolutely clear that justice is going to be done. But this is important.
The Left will keep saying, “Oh! This is revenge! This is retaliation!” No, this is a recalibration of the Scales of Justice, where we were accused of crimes that we didn’t commit.
And they were set to send us away for a long, long time where these people actually committed serious, seditious crimes for which they will now be punished. And what’s making them apoplectic, Alex, is they know they’re not going to be charged in D.C. where everything is wired and they’re certain to be acquitted. They’re going to be tried in a city where they’ll get a fair trial.
And in a fair trial, they’ll be convicted, because the evidence is overwhelming.
Alex Jones: And again, I want to be one trillion percent clear with our listeners who I love, and most of them get this, but I love everybody. And I don’t tell people positive things, just booey stuff.
I’ve always been a realist. I’d get accused when we were so down in the game years ago of being a porn dealer and a doom and glimmer. No, I respect people. I think they’re just like me. And they need to know how serious something is, because I believe we’re going to rally against it. And we’ve still got major problems.
But Trump is doing so much good on so many fronts that has come through so much. That’s why he does things that I don’t agree with or bad advice, I get so pissed, not out of hate of Trump, but out of literally needing him for my own country, my own future: They want to put me in prison. They want to kill me. They want to kill Roger.
The Globalists hate us all, but those of us that have stood up to them, they really hate us, OK?
So you’re getting nothing but what I absolutely believe to be true, the very best analysis from my mind, from my heart, you’re getting it unfiltered. This is life and death for Roger and I. They hate us so much, OK, because we helped quarterback Trump’s first victory.
And we’re recognized as that, Roger and I, and him with the strategy and everything, and myself with the audience, but Roger working on that. This was all quarterback before and they had all our phones tapped that came out. That’s why they knew. That’s like, “Get those son of a bitches!” because we were quarterbacking this and it has to happen. So I can tell you this, I am not Jesus Christ.
So I can’t tell you all these indictments are going to happen. I can tell you Trump in the meetings is go find the crimes, go after him. He isn’t managing it. But, and I can tell you from talking to not just Ed Martin, but others, because the others want to be off the radar.
Martin said, “No, go ahead and say it’s me. And he said, no, I’m going to come on soon.” And that was a whole other story behind that.
But he was telling me, he said, “The problem isn’t finding crimes.” He said, “We’re in all their stuf,f now. The grand juries are operating, they’re subpoenaing people.” He said, “It’s ridiculous. They were operating like they never thought they’d get in trouble.”
And it’s not just mortgage fraud and income tax fraud. It’s foreign governments, money, spying, giggling, laughing, text messages, emails about censoring, suppressing, how they’re going to get us, how they’re going to have mass trials, how they’re going to arrest all the Trump supporters, how they could potentially put, you saw Democrats in the news said, we’re going to put millions of Trump supporters in re-education camps. Hillary said that. These guys put it in emails, OK? So they’re just deciding how to put this out, right now.
And so, and I was like, let me guess, the reason this should be said now is because the enemy knows, the public needs to know we’re going to war. And he said, “That was the next thing I was going to say. The President understands it. I understand it. You understand it. This is a war. And even my best prosecutors still think we’re in Kansas,” – or they are in Missouri. They still think, they understand this is seven days a week, totally urgent. This is a mission from God, folks, to quote the Blues Brothers.
I mean, this is beyond epic and he’s got the people now, they’ve got the grand juries. Now, grand juries aren’t rubber stamps. They’re just debating, do we get them on this cut and dry or we do the big citizen conspiracy that’s more complex? And I agree with Martin.
He was like, what do you think? And I said – he would ask me first and he’d say, that’s what we think. I say: “Vaporize them on the Process Crimes, anything you got that’s cut-and-dry. Because, as soon as we start the indictments, the enemy’s already folding.”
And I already talked to him before, but he said, “No,” he goes, “My office is full of people.” He goes, “That’s part of the headache.” And he goes, “I love it.”
But he goes, “The Autopen people blew the whistle months ago.”
I mean, they’re already cutting and running, Roger. I’m ranting, but our enemy is dropping their shields.
The old saying of Spartan women was, come home with your shields or on it. For people that don’t know, your armor’s heavy. Unlike the movie ‘300’, they wore heavy armor. They weren’t running around with their chest sticking out as bodybuilders. They had huge shields, that’s part of the reason they were so hard to beat was they were tough and Spartans and trained hard, but also had armor on. And the point was the women would say, and it’s Greek history, “Come home with your shields or on it.”
Because, if you’re going to run and you’re getting vanquished, you drop your shields and armor. No, it means you come home with your shields victorious, or you come home because men would carry the dead soldiers over a shield.
And that’s where we are. We need to have that attitude of victory of death, Colonel Travis.
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