My Query: Elon Musk and Peter Thiel were co-founders of PayPal and have evolved as leaders of Silicon Valley. What was the extent of their coordination at DOGE, which Musk ran, and appointed several from Thiel’s Palantir? ⁃ Patrick Wood, Editor.
Elon Musk and Peter Thiel, leveraging their long-standing Silicon Valley partnership from PayPal, displayed significant but indirect coordination at DOGE (Department of Government Efficiency), particularly through overlapping personnel and shared ideological and business interests. Musk formally led DOGE as the administration’s high-profile “efficiency czar,” while a substantial number of DOGE appointees had strong connections to Thiel, particularly through his company Palantir and the so-called PayPal Mafia[1][2][3][4].
Extent of Coordination at DOGE
- Shared Networks and Personnel: *At least a dozen DOGE members were former Palantir employees or otherwise Thiel-affiliated*, including “high-level technology appointees” and advisors[5][1][2][3][6][4]. This included direct appointments of both seasoned Thiel associates and tech-world protégés, such as Thiel Fellows, into pivotal federal technology and data infrastructure roles within DOGE and across various agencies[2][4]. Palantir’s presence in DOGE was not incidental, with evidence of Palantir alumni being actively recruited into DOGE’s ranks, and at least three individuals with direct Palantir association involved in DOGE recruiting efforts[6].
- Palantir’s Strategic Role: *Palantir, co-founded by Thiel, was hired by DOGE to build a “master database”*, aggregating information from agencies like the IRS, DHS, and SSA to enable real-time cross-referencing of tax, immigration, and social data[5][7][8]. Wired and Democracy Now report that Palantir’s data services—previously used by ICE and the Department of Defense—have become, in essence, an “operating system for the entire government” under the DOGE initiative, centralizing oversight and dramatically expanding surveillance capabilities[7][8].
- Ideological and Business Alignment: Both Musk and Thiel have publicly advocated for using technology to fundamentally reshape, if not replace, traditional democratic bureaucracy with a more efficient, corporate and data-driven model[9][10]. Thiel was a major campaign donor to Trump and then-VP Vance, serving as a financial and intellectual architect behind the DOGE push for deregulation, government downsizing, and increased pro-tech, pro-crypto policies[1][9][10].
- Operational Autonomy: Unlike typical federal hiring, DOGE’s staffing was managed via a separate process led by Musk, resulting in a workforce that largely bypassed established civil service protocols and relied instead on personal networks—principally Musk’s and, indirectly, Thiel’s—rather than traditional vetting or government experience[11][12][2]. Many of these appointees were remarkably young, with limited experience in public service, further highlighting the Silicon Valley-rooted, ideological coherence of the DOGE cohort[11][13][4].
Nature and Degree of Their Collaboration
- Direct Musk–Thiel collaboration within DOGE appears limited to **personnel and network overlap, and mutual business interests**, rather than formal dual leadership or daily co-strategy. Musk led DOGE operationally, while Thiel’s influence was exerted through his appointees, investments, and the pivotal role of Palantir technology in executing DOGE’s mandate[11][1][2][3][10].
- Policy and implementation: The initiative reflected both men’s vision for a minimal, tech-dominated federal structure—Musk streamlining and cutting federal budgets, Thiel’s Palantir underpinning the IT infrastructure to enact these changes, and both benefiting from expanded federal reliance on their companies and networks[5][7][2][8][9][3].
Conclusion
Musk and Thiel did not run DOGE as co-chairs, but the extent of their coordination was formidable due to the systematic placement of Thiel’s Palantir alumni within DOGE, active Palantir involvement in key government data initiatives, congruent technocratic ideologies, and mutual network reinforcement. Their strategies and interests, essentially realized through DOGE, represent a broad Silicon Valley technocratic realignment of federal power—with Musk as the figurehead and operator, and Thiel as a primary architect of its data-driven machinery and technopolitical agenda[5][1][7][2][9][10][4].
Sources
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[2] We Mapped DOGE’s Silicon Valley and Corporate Connections https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-doge-silicon-valley-corporate-connections/
[3] Former Palantir and Elon Musk Associates Are Taking Over … – WIRED https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-palantir-chief-information-officers-government/
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[5] I Worked At Palantir: The Tech Company Reshaping Reality https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ95Gmvg_D4
[6] At least three individuals associated with Palantir or its cofounder … https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1il4m23/at_least_three_individuals_associated_with/
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[9] How the PayPal Mafia Looks Set to Dominate the New Trump … https://www.investopedia.com/the-paypal-mafia-8759491
[10] We’re Thinking About DOGE All Wrong – Columbia Political Review http://www.cpreview.org/articles/2025/4/were-thinking-about-doge-all-wrong
[11] Department of Government Efficiency – Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Department_of_Government_Efficiency
[12] Who is part of Elon Musk’s DOGE, and what are they doing? – NPR https://www.npr.org/2025/02/07/nx-s1-5288988/doge-elon-musk-staff-trump
[13] What is Doge and why is Musk leaving? – BBC https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c23vkd57471o
[14] DOGE: Department of Government Efficiency https://doge.gov/savings
[15] Department of Government Efficiency (@DOGE) / X https://x.com/doge
[16] Establishing And Implementing The President’s “Department Of … https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/establishing-and-implementing-the-presidents-department-of-government-efficiency/
[17] Here are all the agencies that Elon Musk and DOGE have been … https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/elon-musks-government-dismantling-fight-stop/story?id=118576033
[18] DOGE enters its next phase of remaking government minus Musk https://www.npr.org/2025/06/16/nx-s1-5431926/doge-future-elon-musk
[19] Elon Musk defends his work as he prepares to wind down at DOGE https://apnews.com/article/elon-musk-doge-donald-trump-962778979dd35ea79d6092df9cb2cb56
[20] This week in Federal Policy Watch: Elon Musk’s DOGE takes over … https://www.epi.org/blog/this-week-in-federal-policy-watch-elon-musks-doge-takes-over-federal-government/
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